B2B Tech Talk with Ingram Micro
B2B Tech Talk with Ingram Micro

Episode · 3 weeks ago

The Importance of Application Modernization to Organizations

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Legacy applications just weren’t built to handle the data of today. The result—an extremely time consuming and costly system that’s holding businesses back.  

Luckily, application modernization is moving these legacy solutions to the forefront of technology—helping to support the needs of a modern business, all while increasing productivity and maintaining IT budgets.   

Shelby Skrhak speaks with Cheryl Rang , executive director, Advanced Solutions and Data Center at Ingram Micro , and Aviram Cohen , Strategy and Emerging Technologies at Ingram Micro , about: 

  • What application modernization really is 
  • The difference between modern and legacy applications
  • The future of legacy applications  

To join the discussion, follow us on Twitter @IngramTechSol #B2BTechTalk 

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You're listening to B two B tech talk with Ingram Micro, the place to learn about new technology and technological advances before they become mainstream. This podcast is sponsored by Ingram Micro's imagine next. It's not about the destination, it's about going someplace you never thought possible. Go to imagine next, DOT INGRAM MICRO DOT com to find out war. Let's get into it. Welcome to B two B tech talk with Ingram micro. I'm your host, shelby skirt talk, and our guests today are Cheryl Ring, executive director advanced solutions at Ingram Micro, and Avirrom Cohen, Ingram's emerging business group strategy and emerging technologies. Cheryl and Aviram good to have you here. Awesome to be back again. Thank you for having us. Thank you, shelby. It's a pleasure of being here. Absolutely well, I'm I'm glad you're here because we're talking about application modernization and the importance uh to organizations in various market verticals. Um and, of course, application moderization ties nicely to cloud adoption and migration. But, Cheryl, can you give us a sense of what application modernization really is and what's the driving force behind it? For sure. So let me start a bit with the second part of your question, which was, you know, the driving force. So digital transformation truly is the driving force behind what we're seeing in the market today. When I think of digital transformation and application modernization, it's really adopting those new cutting edge technologies, using too, that we're using to serve the business and move more and more value to the customers. Organizations in the digital era have created so much data, so much of this massive amount of information, and a great deal of it is being housed in the cloud. So applications in the old days were not necessarily built to deal with such amount of data. That's fully disc immed it across these data...

...centers in a timely fashion. So when we're looking at application modernization today, these it's bringing these legacy applications Um to the forefront of technology. Right now they're holding back the business, they're preventing progress and it's very time consuming. It's super costly. We saw an article just recently that the I t related federal budget for the US, over eighty billion dollars is just going to maintaining those legacy applications and legacy systems. So at modernization is the process of moving these solutions to support the needs of a modern business today, and modern applications are going to be able to help bring more and more efficiencies productivity to the workplace while they can still maintain, I t, budgets at a much more reasonable level. Let me please set a little more color to it, if possible. She really is starting upon two very important points, the digital transformation and the cloud. The DIG The digital transformation emphasizes three attributes automation, efficiency and cost saving. To handle the amounts of that to to handle mountains of data, as we discussed, automation must be introduced and with that efficiency, productivity, customer experience and many more. Legacy systems cannot keep up with that. Today. Change is inevitable. Share touch upon the cloud. The adoption of cloud brings new rules to the game. Legacy applications meant to run on a very specific system. The notion of hardware compatibility was very important in the old days, as there was no guarantee that the application will run flawlessly on different environments. The cloud is introducing new ways of running applications, agility, portability, ease of use. Legacy systems did not possess these attributes. They served as a real well, but the gilty and portability you asked, not...

...even close right well, and I'm glad you bring that up because I do want to come back to agility, portability and ease of use Um later in the conversation. Uh, but I'd like to talk about the market size and give our listeners a sense of what what this market size is. Cheryl, can you said, shed some light on on that topic? Absolutely so. The trend in the market is suggesting solid growth. It's over cager and by the end of the markets expected to reach over four point three billion and cross into five billion by next year. You know. So as we continue to grow each year, it's just growing faster and faster year up to over eight billion dollar mark. I think the important thing to notice is that these are also relatively conservative figures. When I look most recently with the pandemic, that's changed the I t mindset dramatically and migration to the cloud has excel lerated even faster. So it's our belief that even the adoption of new technologies are going to follow that trend as well and continuing to accelerate even more. If you think about just the way that we all use applications today differently. Even recording this podcast as an example, it's all remote, we're hybrid, we're on phones, we're on applications. So the technology is expecting to be innovative and that quick agility comes with the needs of modern applications right well, and so yeah, so going back to those Um attributes that a vera mentioned. Um, what? Um, I'll point the question to you a here, and what are the main differences between legacy applications and modern ones? I mean how we're agility and portability and the ease of use really baked into the core of modern applications today? This is an extremely important question that will help us understand how application, what the organization is related to the cloud. Excuse me for...

...doing this, but you understand the agility and prodability. I must introduce a buzzword into our discussion, and it's called containers. Don't be alarmed that I will explain legacy. Legacy applications or Monolithic in nature. Think of it as a huge piece of code. To make it work, a large group of R and T and Qa people had to work on all the pieces, blue them together and thoroughly test them. When something broke at the customers site, the entire application had to come back to the shop for a fix and massive retesting. Testing included the various hardware systems. You remember the hardware compatibility with disgust. This was taken into consideration too. So let's talk now about containers, and remember Monolithic application, huge pieces of code. So now if we could upbreak them on Lithic application to thousand autonomous spieces, let's say a thousand autonomous spieces, and these are containers. So a container is a small software entity. View it as a simple task. A container is totally hardware independent and it has everything that allows it to freely run in any environment. Again, just to recap, a small software entity that is harder independent and is equipped with all required elements to execute. Containers, by the way, abstract the application from the physical environment, and this is what we're relating to when we suggest that are totally harder agnostic. So once the application is fully tested, a failure in one container but not a big catastrophic at all, the fix of a small component is quickly achieved. Testing for hardware compatibility, it...

...is not even an issue anymore, since containers by their design, are isolated from the harder and can and can run freely in any environment. So let's try to tight all together and realize the benefits of modern and applications. So think of time to market, time to value, fast delivery of applications and even fast delivery when things break. portability containers are hardwareing dependently touched upon it. portability between high hybrid environments and between clouds are very simple. If you think about Amazon, Google cloud, Microsoft, asure. They all deliver similar services to their clients. It is guaranteed that the underlying hardware that each of them is utilizing is totally different. The end user cannot control it. The software developer two has no knowledge and cannot control it. Yet containerized applications modern applications right and identically in each of these environments. So containers also enabled fully distributed systems. Given the autonomous nature of the containers and their ability to execute anywhere, distributed systems and or distributed applications are easily achieved with the containers agility. It's a clearly the derivative, derivative of other attributes of containers, like the autonomous nature of Portability, being harderagnostic, and more containers literally can jump from place to place. Let's bring efficiency and cost saving into the discussion. These are also immediate outcomes of utilizing these model and applications. Everyone on the chain is benefiting from these technology, vendors, service providers, resellers and end users. Now we can think about distributed workloads across several systems, migration of...

...workloads from one platform or one cluster to another based on the changing needs. And when we talk about changing needs, consider compute the intensive applications versus memory hungry ones. And now you can spread the solution or the application among different clusters. So talking about all these good these legacy applications were forever glued to a single environment and that's a huge difference today. Yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. Well, Cheryl. What are the or I guess, who are the dominant players in the market today, and what kind of tools, uh, do they provide to the Development Community? So the good the good news is there's a lot of them out there. The band news is I bet by the time that this errors there's gonna be even more new players on the market. But the largest ones that we definitely run into when and carry our vm where, red hat, Amazon and doccer, Google, Cisco. Those are some of the big contenders that provide software development kits to allow for containerized applications and to be able to deploy them in the cloud once the applications are created and deployed. We also layer on the ease of portability that I've around mentioned and that can come with players like Vm Worres, tansue or red hats, open shift, and we continue to see more and more innovative solutions developed on these platforms to allow for ease of use and migration, truly enabling that multi cloud end game. So Ingram has very strong relationships with a lot of these brand names. Were promoting their offerings in our market, our marketplace and along with training, enablement partnerships and helping to aid our partners in their active journey. So if anyone out there is listening, you have project in mind and considering cloud adoption, where you'd be delighted to organize these conversations with our tech vendor. So make sure that you reach out. Well, that race is the question of how do you deal with these legacy applications? You know what is what does the feature hold for them? You wow...

...this is deep. This is really deep. So legacy applications are the core asset over every business. These are the backbone entities, the drive revenues and insures small operations. In other words, legacy applications are the beating heart of the business and the livelihood of of of the business. So no one with a clear mind will ever let anyone touch these applications. This is guaranteed. The caveat is that pressing hard on the brakes will not allow the business to make any progress. Migration of legacy applications is therefore imminent. So, regardless of the approach, financial investments are unavoidable. Please bear in mind that every approach will be painful. Deployment of a solution at death scale, the configuration and the integration with existing solutions may be lengthy. The spell, the spectrum of migrating these legacy applications is wide and is providing several options. The worst, the worst approach in my mind, is they do nothing. One maintaining the status quo means going backward in a tech world that is moving extremely fast. Standing still is the worst approach in H in any way. Packaging the solution and in a single container or spreading it across many containers. May Do the trick of migrating the application to a new platform in the cloud. This is an excellent interim step. Rewriting the application, the entire application from scratch and adapting it to the cloud, is another extreme fit. Considering containers and the new deployment methodologies development methodologies, it is more manageable to day than ten years ago. Acquiring a new application to replace the legacy one may only seem...

...simple and straightforward, it is challenging from the integration point of view. All these options are associated with time, money and definitely headaches, even they do nothing approach. The best advice, in my mind, is to consult with the experts. Cheryl mentioned the dominant vendors in this in this space there are consulting firms that specialize in these two the challenges up front and along the way are many. Doing it alone mainly to adversity. Doing it opens the door to new innovations that are offered by the cloud and with it all kinds of services. Cheryl, for listeners who have questions about about their transformation or their customers transformation, how can ingram micro helping and how can they reach out definitely don't be shy. So we have our data center tech worst team, of which Abby Ram is a part of, and more technologists like him that are looking at a lot of these trends and how they can get involved and identify where they can fall into their path of digital transformation. We've got this group of Tech Consultants. They possess vast knowledge, uh, much more technical than than you and me, shelby, but you know they have the hands on experience. And we have over two thousand tech vendors that span across networking, cybersecurity, automation, you know, the list goes on and all of these data center solutions. So it would be great idea to approach them. You can reach them at Data Dash Center at Ingram Micro Dot Com. So Data Dash Center at Ingram Micro Dot Com. You can also reach out to me or Ab Ram directly. We're both on Linkedin and happy to connect with you. Well, that does it for this episode of B Two B tech talk with Ingram micro, avi, Rom and Cheryl. Thank you so much for joining me, thank you for having us. Thank you. Thank you so very much, Cheryl, and good luck to all our audience, and thank...

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